August 22, 2004 ABS Forums takeover/omega log

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Start of #omega buffer: Sun Aug 22 21:08:06 2004
[17:52] *** Now talking in #omega
[17:52] *** Topic is 'Omega: The End || Game on.'
[17:52] *** Set by Overlord_45 on Sun Aug 22 17:49:59
[17:54] *** Reene sets mode: +o Overlord_45
[17:55] <Overlord_45> mmk
[17:55] <Overlord_45> had to make a phone call for that one
[17:55] <Overlord_45> anyway
[17:55] *** Overlord_45 sets mode: +v Melindhra
[17:55] <Overlord_45> i invited these folks here because, well
[17:55] <Overlord_45> you recall that conversation we had a couple of days ago, right?
[17:55] *** ChanServ changes topic to 'Omega: The End || Game on. (Overlord_45)'
[17:56] <Melindhra> yup
[17:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +q Overlord_45
[17:56] <Overlord_45> you were awfully circular
[17:56] <Overlord_45> awfully evasive
[17:56] <Overlord_45> and looking over it i wasn't really satisfied with the half-answers you gave me
[17:56] <Melindhra> you know i had to go
[17:57] <Overlord_45> yes, and timing has absolutely nothing to do with whether you answer a question, or answer around a question
[17:58] <Overlord_45> and i'm fairly sure you know that
[17:58] <Melindhra> and it's so hard to just message me now, ask answer, get it and move on
[17:58] <Overlord_45> now, don't start getting snippy on me dear
[17:58] <Overlord_45> remember how i threatened you to get you to talk?
[17:58] <Overlord_45> don't think it was just idle words
[17:59] <Overlord_45> keep that in mind
[17:59] <Overlord_45> now then
[17:59] <Overlord_45> first off
[17:59] <Overlord_45> let's hear why you lied to primate about what it was you did while you were here
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[18:00] <Overlord_45> i'm curious about that and damned if you couldn't tell me
[18:00] <Melindhra> the only people who need to know about my sex life are those i date irl, which would be one person since Mike last year and he knows
[18:00] <Overlord_45> in case you can't remember what it is i'm referring to
[18:00] <Overlord_45> d0pamine (3:19:28 AM): amazing
[18:00] <Overlord_45> d0pamine (3:19:31 AM): see
[18:00] <Overlord_45> d0pamine (3:19:42 AM): she made up all this bullshit that you guys did nothing
[18:00] <Overlord_45> w33tie (3:19:48 AM): what did she say we did?
[18:00] <Overlord_45> d0pamine (3:19:51 AM): and nothing added up
[18:01] <Melindhra> second of all, it was a stupid mistake and i wish i could tell myself it wasn't so
[18:01] *** |sYcksYn| is now known as Liar
[18:01] <Overlord_45> alright
[18:01] <Overlord_45> let's get some comments about the nature of your relationship with primate then
[18:01] *** Overlord_45 sets mode: +v cha0sbride
[18:02] <Overlord_45> think he deserved to know who it was she'd been riding?
[18:02] *** HEHE is now known as SheHasSTDS
[18:02] <cha0sbride> mhmm
[18:02] *** Overlord_45 sets mode: +N
[18:02] <Melindhra> we had never talked about who i had slept with before, so no, if it would have been a relationship then yes
[18:03] <Overlord_45> since primate chose to not come, i've got to go through a little hearsay here
[18:03] <Overlord_45> cha0sbride, did it appear to you that they had a relationship?
[18:03] <cha0sbride> yes
[18:03] <Overlord_45> can we get some background on you, just so we know you have a basis to be speaking for him?
[18:03] <Melindhra> how do you have a relationship when you've only met like 4 days?
[18:03] <cha0sbride> I do not speak for him
[18:04] <cha0sbride> I'm not attempting to claim to know you, either
[18:04] <cha0sbride> simmer down, ffs
[18:04] <Overlord_45> how do you write things like http://members.socket.net/~cjolliff/Excerpt.jpg when you've never met somebody?
[18:04] <Overlord_45> let's hear your rationale for that one
[18:05] <Melindhra> i couldnt tell you, being stupid i guess
[18:05] <Overlord_45> (if anybody needs me to prove that's her handwriting then i will by the way)
[18:05] <Melindhra> im sure they know it's mine
[18:06] <Overlord_45> so you just wrote that out of stupidity, alright
[18:07] <Overlord_45> let's delve into what you did while you were here then
[18:07] <Overlord_45> you've told me that you decided, while you were here, at some point, that you didn't really love me
[18:07] <Overlord_45> correct?
[18:08] <Melindhra> true
[18:08] <Overlord_45> what day?
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[18:09] <Melindhra> not a specific day, more like after seeing everything afterwards
[18:09] <Melindhra> lil pieces all together
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[18:10] <Overlord_45> little pieces all together like what?
[18:10] <Melindhra> can't name specific things, you just know how you feel
[18:11] <Overlord_45> why can't you name specific things?
[18:11] <Reene> I believe you pinpointed a particular occasion in a supermarket, did you not?
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[18:11] <Melindhra> that's a minor thing Reene
[18:12] <Reene> Not the way you portraid it.
[18:12] <Overlord_45> i believe the user of nick SheHasSTDS has some insight here as well
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[18:12] <SheHasSTDS> HI!
[18:12] <SheHasSTDS> u savage
[18:13] <Overlord_45> serious commentary please
[18:13] <SheHasSTDS> you don't make eye contact with the strangers at wal mart?
[18:13] <Overlord_45> Melindhra is being strangely quiet
[18:13] <Overlord_45> i wonder why
[18:14] <Melindhra> i wondr what ya wanna know
[18:14] <Overlord_45> bad short term memory?
[18:14] <Overlord_45> [18:11] <Overlord_45> why can't you name specific things?
[18:14] <Overlord_45> [18:11] <Reene> I believe you pinpointed a particular occasion in a supermarket, did you not?
[18:14] <Overlord_45> both of these haven't yet been answered satisfactorily
[18:14] <Melindhra> yer into other things
[18:15] <Overlord_45> such as?
[18:15] <Reene> Like remaining sober on saturday nights.
[18:15] <SheHasSTDS> Being outdoors, but not in the woods
[18:15] <Melindhra> ya hate me for going out and stuff cuz it's not your things, and it's usually sth you do with one yer with
[18:15] <Melindhra> just very different people
[18:15] <Overlord_45> forgotten about how i said i'd go places with you?
[18:15] <Overlord_45> and alternately, said more than once that it was perfectly fine by me if you went places like that
[18:16] <Melindhra> alone?
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[18:16] <Melindhra> and why would i have to ask someone to be someone they're not, cuz i like those things?
[18:16] <Reene> You wouldn't. You also would not deceive them.
[18:17] <Reene> Common human decency does not seem to dictate your behavior though.
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[18:17] <Melindhra> if that's so, everyone who doesn't date someone cuz they know it won't work or have no feelings have no human decency
[18:18] *** Overlord_45 sets mode: +vv Sin-X Tyln
[18:18] <Reene> Our ideas of what constitutes a relationship seem to differ greatly.
[18:18] <Overlord_45> so, you wrote http://members.socket.net/~cjolliff/Excerpt.jpg with no feelings behind it?
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[18:18] <Sin-X> the funny thing is, people change while you date them... so whos to say he couldnt change... if even a little
[18:18] <Reene> But I can tell you that no matter how despicable I can be I would never write or say what you did unless I meant it.
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[18:18] <Reene> And you do not simply fall out of love with someone for something as minor as not meeting people's eyes in a wal-mart store.
[18:19] <Melindhra> i told you i liked you, after meeting i knew i made a mistake and im sorry but i can't undo that
[18:19] <Reene> That didn't stop you from sleeping with him a few times.
[18:19] <Sin-X> yeah, thats shallow... deciding you dont like someone because you cant look em in the eyes
[18:19] <SheHasSTDS> even after the wal mart incident
[18:19] <Sin-X> they cant look others in the eyes*
[18:19] <Reene> Tell me, are you extremely fickle or merely promiscuous?
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[18:20] <Melindhra> people fall out of love all the time
[18:20] <Reene> Keep telling yourself that.
[18:20] * Tyln wonders how many times Melindhra has "fallen out of love"
[18:20] <Melindhra> ive experienced it before, so yeah i will
[18:20] <Reene> I can assure you that your behavior in the past few years of your life has been far from what constitutes normal.
[18:20] <Sin-X> but to fall out of love you actually have to have an understanding what love is, and what ive seen of how you act to people you "care" about, you have no idea what it is
[18:20] <Reene> So have I.
[18:21] <Reene> My lover partakes in many activities I would call questionable or even deplorable but I don't simply fall out of love with him.
[18:21] <cha0sbride> but not everyone has multiple things going at once that require lies and backpedalling to maintain
[18:21] <Reene> Love is accepting someone, all of someone, not just what you like while rejecting the things you dislike.
[18:21] <Melindhra> why would anyone who sleeps with a married man, tell me what to do here?
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[18:21] <cha0sbride> who slept with a married man, dear?
[18:22] <Reene> Who is sleeping with a married man?
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[18:22] <Melindhra> ask whoever spread the rumour
[18:22] <cha0sbride> exactly
[18:22] <Reene> About whom, exactly?
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[18:22] <cha0sbride> I'll kindly remind you that this conversation is not in regard to a rumor started by cancer boy
[18:22] <Overlord_45> .i would like you to remember that while side conversations are quite admirable sometimes
[18:22] <Melindhra> i never heard anything from cancer boy
[18:22] <Melindhra> i dun even talk to the guy
[18:22] <Overlord_45> .circling around what i am doing here is not my intention
[18:23] <Overlord_45> .thank you
[18:23] <Reene> Of course. Go on Chance.
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[18:24] <Overlord_45> alright then
[18:25] <Overlord_45> as i believe i was going on before we had that discussion there
[18:26] <Overlord_45> how well did i present myself to you before you met me last summer?
[18:26] <Overlord_45> as in, did i keep things i liked to do and opinions of mine secret, or did i tell you whatever you'd ask for whenever you'd ask?
[18:27] <Overlord_45> don't be shy
[18:27] <Melindhra> you never said a word about hating going out and alcohol and sorts of things
[18:27] <Melindhra> i learned that afterwards
[18:27] <Overlord_45> you mean you never had any idea that i didn't care for parties and going out?
[18:27] <Overlord_45> i completely blindsided you with that?
[18:27] <Melindhra> i dont think it ever came up really
[18:28] <Overlord_45> really? somehow i seem to recall mentioning, at least once, that i was bothered by you partying last summer
[18:28] <Melindhra> but ya never said how 'disgusting' ya thought it was when i mentioned i had gotten drunk or sth
[18:28] <Overlord_45> and that i was afraid that you would be bored
[18:28] <Overlord_45> because i wasn't, you know, very exciting
[18:28] <Melindhra> bothered is quite different then being disgusted by it
[18:28] <Overlord_45> and you assured me that no, no, it'd be fine, you loved me!
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[18:29] <Melindhra> i liked ya yeah, and i was sure ya did other stuff
[18:31] <Melindhra> also the gf thing was sth you lied alot about
[18:31] <Melindhra> but i mentioned that already the other day
[18:31] <Overlord_45> i sure did, and then i came right out and told you the truth as soon as i could
[18:31] <Overlord_45> and you're aware of that
[18:31] <Melindhra> cause you had to
[18:32] <Melindhra> and you did tell the truth, which was cool
[18:32] <Overlord_45> exactly
[18:32] <Melindhra> then you went on about how much you hated her
[18:32] <Melindhra> hated being around her
[18:32] <Overlord_45> important point there, when i had to tell the truth about things, i sure as hell went and did without being bugged
[18:32] <Melindhra> you break up with her, and i then told you to get back with her, which ya did (i think...til she moved)
[18:33] <Overlord_45> uh huh
[18:33] <Melindhra> now you blame me for you breaking up with her, while all ya ever said was how much you hated her and were just seeing her to not be alone
[18:33] <Overlord_45> .(i like how this went from me not liking you partying to my previous girlfriend by the way, very smooth)
[18:34] <Melindhra> no
[18:34] <Reene> Vicky wasn't the kind of girl bothered by breakups, if I may say so.
[18:34] <Melindhra> you asked me what you didnt tell me before we met
[18:34] <Reene> She had a new boyfriend within the week if I recall.
[18:34] <Melindhra> well that's how she is then
[18:34] <Reene> So if you are going the route of karmic justice by your actions, I suggest you forget it.
[18:34] <Melindhra> but her not being bothered isn't the issue
[18:34] <Reene> Apparently it is, since you are making it an issue.
[18:35] <Melindhra> no
[18:35] <Reene> I mean, you brought it up.
[18:35] <Reene> Her feelings on the matter should count, should they not?
[18:35] <Melindhra> he asked me what he "deceived" me about
[18:35] <Melindhra> i named it
[18:35] <Melindhra> on to the next question
[18:35] <Overlord_45> no, you can't do that here, you're the one answering questions today
[18:35] <Melindhra> yeah so im waiting for one
[18:35] <Overlord_45> [18:35] <Reene> I mean, you brought it up.
[18:35] <Overlord_45> [18:35] <Reene> Her feelings on the matter should count, should they not?
[18:36] *** Overlord_45 sets mode: +v ladybird
[18:36] <Melindhra> i don't know her, and if she wasn't bothered, good for her i guess
[18:36] <Overlord_45> so you couldn't have cared less about her, okay
[18:37] <Melindhra> if i hadn't cared about her at all, i wouldn' have told ya to get back with her
[18:39] <Overlord_45> seems strange to me
[18:39] <Melindhra> what exactly
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[18:40] -> *Tyln* if you have something to say please throw it out quickly
[18:41] -> *Tyln* i'm floundering here
[18:41] <Sin-X> the question i have is why would you have him get back with someone you know he hates...
[18:41] <Melindhra> cause i never believed he actually did hate her
[18:41] <Melindhra> otherwise he wouldn't have dated her so long
[18:41] <Sin-X> so you didnt trust him
[18:42] <ladybird> you think he lied to you about it?
[18:42] <Melindhra> i don't know, could have been a reaction after a fight or so they'd had
[18:42] <Sin-X> obviously... she didnt trust him, so that means she never cared for him... you cant have a relationship at all without trust
[18:42] <ladybird> but you said he told you he hated her on a regular basis
[18:42] <Melindhra> true, and it still doesn't make sense
[18:43] <Melindhra> because it seems t me like torturing yourself that way
[18:43] <Melindhra> but he did say he felt bad after breaking up
[18:43] <Sin-X> it seems to me like you telling him to tourture himself instead of being with you or alone... he hated her, and you wanted him to be with her
[18:44] <Melindhra> because he felt bad about the break up
[18:44] <Melindhra> and he seemed sad when she was ùoving
[18:44] <Melindhra> moving
[18:44] <Melindhra> can that be real hate then?
[18:44] <ladybird> most people feel sad when they break up, even if they didnt like their mate
[18:44] <Tyln> Melindhra, how many breakups have you had before chance?
[18:44] <Melindhra> true
[18:44] <Melindhra> 3
[18:44] <Sin-X> how many were people that you actually cared for?
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[18:45] <Melindhra> twice cheated on and the other one, was kinda a mutual agreement
[18:45] <Tyln> none of these breakups had complications?
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[18:45] <Melindhra> 1 i was IN love with, the other 2 i dated for quite a long time but it was just love...but didnt feel like "the right person"
[18:45] <Melindhra> sure did Tyln
[18:45] <Sin-X> well, it seems you dont concider you cheating on people as a relationship... you were with chance, then with primate within a few days...
[18:46] <Tyln> then I'd think you'd be aware of what returning to his ex could mean
[18:46] <Melindhra> i liked primate
[18:46] <Sin-X> but there was never even a breakup there... so im not sure how anyone can believe your thoughts on relationships
[18:46] <Melindhra> never did a thing with him
[18:46] <Sin-X> we know
[18:46] <Sin-X> he refused
[18:46] <Melindhra> Tyln: i once returned to an ex for a while
[18:46] <Sin-X> he said it wasnt for a lack of you trying
[18:46] <Sin-X> but a lack of him wanting to
[18:46] <Tyln> Melindhra, and you didn't stay with him, which ex was that?
[18:47] <Melindhra> the one i was in love with and dated for 3 yrs
[18:47] <Reene> Hm..
[18:47] <Tyln> was that also the one you were in mutual agreement with, or was that one that cheated?
[18:47] <Reene> So clarify this for me.
[18:47] <Melindhra> mutual agreement
[18:47] <Reene> Was the "mutual agreement" one the one you threatened to kill yourself and keep an unwanted pregnancy for?
[18:48] <Melindhra> i was never pregnant
[18:48] <Reene> Really.
[18:48] <Melindhra> never decided to keep one
[18:48] <Melindhra> or kill myself
[18:48] <Melindhra> people reading email
[18:48] <Reene> So that stuff about "keeping the baby" from Steve I think it was..
[18:48] <Melindhra> without permission
[18:48] <Reene> Was that a lie on your part or his?
[18:48] <Melindhra> should also read the original message to which was replied
[18:48] <Reene> Why on earth would he think you would "keep the baby or something" if you were never pregnant?
[18:48] <Reene> Explain this.
[18:49] <Melindhra> if you want my doctor's number to ask if i was ever pregnant, by all means, call
[18:49] <Sin-X> meli, the problem is with the laws on email, while its in transit, its protected, but once it reaches its destination server its nolonger protected by any law, and is admissable in courts
[18:49] <Reene> Sure.
[18:49] <Reene> I have an international phone card.
[18:49] <Melindhra> true Sin-X
[18:49] <Reene> Of course, I'm sure the laws in your country are quite as clear as they are here.
[18:49] <Sin-X> so, either way, it reached its destination, and its not a matter of how the email was read, but that the email said what it did
[18:49] <Reene> They probably won't tell me squat.
[18:50] <Melindhra> but breaking into someone's email account isn't exactly allowed
[18:50] <Reene> He didn't break in.
[18:50] <Reene> He had your password.
[18:50] <Sin-X> thats actually not protected
[18:50] <Reene> That is not breaking in by any stretch of the imagination.
[18:50] <Melindhra> i never gave him my password
[18:50] <Reene> So?
[18:50] <Reene> He had it.
[18:50] <Reene> He got it in a legitimate way.
[18:50] <Sin-X> that he did...
[18:50] <Melindhra> why do you speak in his name btw?
[18:50] <Overlord_45> my eyes own
[18:50] <Reene> Back to the question.
[18:51] <Reene> Why would this Steve person think you would "keep the baby" if you were never pregnant?
[18:51] <Melindhra> there was never anything about a baby between the both of us
[18:51] <Reene> Goodness! Could it be you lied to him about being pregnant in a sorry attempt to keep him?
[18:51] <Reene> Which is why I am asking you to explain why he would say such a thing.
[18:51] <Melindhra> like that would work on a guy?
[18:52] <Reene> You would know.
[18:52] <Sin-X> it would
[18:52] <Melindhra> mention a baby, would prolly drive them away
[18:52] <Sin-X> then you know guys less than i thought
[18:52] <Tyln> there's hesitation to be had in abandoning a baby
[18:52] <Melindhra> who'd want a baby when they're 19
[18:52] <Reene> This was not a public transmission- He would have no reason to say such a thing if he knew it was untrue.
[18:52] <Overlord_45> i wouldn't have been driven away
[18:52] <Sin-X> a guy will stick around for a few good reasons if theres talk of pregnacy
[18:52] <ladybird> plenty of girls claim to be pregnant to keep a guy. if he's a half decent man, he'll stay
[18:52] <Overlord_45> i do have a streak of responsibility, you know
[18:53] <Tyln> since a guy could easily be paying like hell for the next several years
[18:53] <Melindhra> maybe not you, but steve would have been
[18:53] <Sin-X> any guy worth half a shit would stay
[18:53] <Tyln> and if he cared
[18:53] <Sin-X> and most girls know this
[18:53] <Reene> Then why would Steve say something like he was "afraid you'd keep the baby" to keep him in the relationship?
[18:53] <Reene> Stop evading the question.
[18:53] <Tyln> i'm sure he would have some instinct of protecting what is his
[18:53] <Melindhra> Sin-X: not when the relationship is in trouble
[18:53] <Reene> Shhh, people. You're distracting dear Meli's one track mind.
[18:53] <Melindhra> and not when you knew from the start the guy never even wanted kids
[18:53] <Tyln> it's mind-wretching, and throws a question into seemingly broken relationships
[18:53] <Sin-X> ive seen more relationships get pulled together by it than torn apart
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[18:54] <Melindhra> yeah but how long do they last Tyln?
[18:54] <Overlord_45> answer Reene's question directly
[18:54] <Melindhra> ive seen that happen, but in the end they split up anyways
[18:54] <Overlord_45> show the question one more time please, Reene
[18:54] <Overlord_45> then i will re-voice people
[18:54] <Reene> Why would Steve say he was afraid you would keep the baby to keep him in the relationship if, by your reckoning, there was never a pregnancy?
[18:54] <Overlord_45> answer that question directly please
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[18:55] <Melindhra> that pregnancy thing was about a friend we both have, and i told Chance this before
[18:55] <Reene> Really.
[18:55] <Melindhra> i was never pregnant, nor would i wanna be
[18:55] <Reene> So he was afraid *you* would keep your *friend's* baby.
[18:55] <Overlord_45> sadly i can't remember that, nor did i log it, so you'll have to refresh my memory
[18:55] <Melindhra> no, that Tanya would keep it
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[18:56] <Reene> This email was directed at you not your friend and it explicitely referred to the fact that he was afraid you would threaten to kill yourself again and/or "keep the baby"
[18:56] <Reene> I remember it well enough.
[18:56] <Sin-X> can i see this email? did someone take an ss of it?
[18:56] <Reene> This was in reference to, quite explicitely, a baby *you* were to be having.
[18:56] <Melindhra> i was never gonna have a baby
[18:56] <Reene> Chance deleted his screen shots.
[18:56] <Sin-X> damn
[18:56] <Reene> So did you lie to him?
[18:57] <Melindhra> i didn't lie to him
[18:57] <Overlord_45> my screen shots are gone, and her email password has changed
[18:57] <Reene> Then which is it.
[18:57] <Overlord_45> so there sadly isn't anything i can do
[18:57] <Melindhra> if i had lied to him, i wouldn't still be in touch with him
[18:57] <Reene> Either you were pregnant and threatened to keep the baby unless he stayed in this relationship with you or you were never pregnant and threatened him anyway
[18:57] <ladybird> or he just doesnt know the truth
[18:57] <Reene> The wording was very clear
[18:58] <Reene> This was not in reference to some baby another woman was having.
[18:58] <Reene> This was in reference to a baby he believed you to be carrying.
[18:58] <Reene> His child.
[18:58] <Reene> Either you bargained with a human life or you lied about it.
[18:58] <Melindhra> again, i never was pregnant nor did i tell him i was
[18:58] <Overlord_45> it's .such. a shame i can't reference the original email
[18:58] <Melindhra> steve and i were over
[18:59] <Reene> Yes, you were over, and apparently desparate.
[18:59] <Reene> This wasn't the first time you two had troubles either, by the tone of the email.
[18:59] <Melindhra> desperate, no, sad for a few months, yes
[18:59] <Reene> As he said he was afraid you'd threaten to kill yourself *again*
[18:59] <Reene> Which indicates it had happened in the past
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[18:59] <Reene> As well as a very clear reference to a baby you had apparently threatened to keep against his will.
[18:59] <Melindhra> if that's what you wanna believe, then that's your decision
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[19:00] <Reene> If you wish to attempt to continue being deceptive, fine.
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[19:00] <Reene> If you still have the folder full of emails from this relationship that ended 6 years ago..
[19:00] <Reene> Perhaps you can paste the relevant lines, and prove me wrong.
[19:00] <Melindhra> i no longer have the folder
[19:00] <Reene> Of course not.
[19:00] <Melindhra> it's true
[19:01] <Melindhra> i have a few emails in my inbox and that's about it
[19:01] <Reene> well, that is a shame..
[19:01] <Sin-X> ofcourse she does, after all, she dosnt want it to bite her in the ass again
[19:01] <Reene> So it is the word of a woman who has lied and lied and lied repeatedly to save her own ass..
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[19:01] <Reene> Versus the word of myself, and Chance.
[19:01] <Melindhra> yeah same as with logs eh Sin-X
[19:01] <Tyln> chance, when was the last time you had access to her account and roughly how many emails were in there?
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[19:01] <Overlord_45> the last time i had access was approximately january
[19:01] <Reene> Neither of whom have reason to lie, I assure you, as the real truthful evidence against you is quite enough.
[19:02] <Sin-X> meli i still keep logs, but i rotate them out on a certan basis
[19:02] <Overlord_45> and there were about a page's worth of emails at 1600x1200
[19:02] <Sin-X> Overlord_45 has a copy of all my logs as well
[19:02] <Melindhra> yeah i know you do
[19:02] <Overlord_45> but Melindhra
[19:02] <Overlord_45> oh am i glad you mentioned logs
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[19:02] <Overlord_45> where were you july 22nd?
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[19:03] <Melindhra> in illinois
[19:03] <Overlord_45> where, specifically?
[19:03] <Overlord_45> hotel? someone's house? someone's office?
[19:04] <Melindhra> either house or office
[19:04] <Sin-X> wow, nice and specific
[19:04] <Overlord_45> no, i know what she means
[19:04] <Overlord_45> at his house earlier, went out to lunch, went back to his office
[19:04] <Overlord_45> no?
[19:04] <Melindhra> that's possible
[19:05] <Overlord_45> don't be vague dear
[19:05] <Overlord_45> am i right or am i wrong?
[19:05] <Melindhra> yeah, was the day i did laundry i think
[19:05] <Melindhra> so it is probably right
[19:05] <Overlord_45> it was
[19:05] <Overlord_45> he was at work and you were at his house doing laundry and using his computer
[19:06] <Melindhra> he was also at the house for a while, when i was doing laundry
[19:06] <Overlord_45> but he wasn't there the whole time, was he?
[19:06] <Melindhra> when i was on the computer, he wasn't there for maybe 5 minutes
[19:07] <Overlord_45> how certain of that are you?
[19:07] <Melindhra> 99% because the time he was out, i was talking to his grandma downstairs
[19:08] <Overlord_45> alright
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[19:08] <Overlord_45> Reene, i believe you had something to say here
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[19:09] <Reene> Well.
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[19:09] <Sin-X> how did he rejoin when he was banned? :/
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[19:10] <Reene> I would say this comes down to a matter of Meli being the type of person that believes people she meets and becomes involved with online are not real people, as is demonstrated by her repeated claiming that she never *really* dated any of the people she dated online, or even met and fucked IRL.
[19:10] <Reene> So...
[19:10] <Sin-X> ofcourse they arnt real people
[19:10] <Reene> Where exactly does this leave Chad?
[19:11] <Melindhra> i slept with 2 online people, if ya really need to know
[19:11] <Sin-X> they are just personas on irc and nothing more
[19:11] <Sin-X> tired with many more
[19:11] <Reene> Meli, the number doesn't matter.
[19:11] <Melindhra> and one of them im 100% commited to
[19:11] <Reene> The fact remains you had sexual intercourse with people you've met online but maintain you never truly cared for them or were even dating them.
[19:11] <Reene> So...
[19:11] <Overlord_45> [19:11] <Melindhra> and one of them im 100% commited to
[19:11] <Sin-X> -|sYcksYn|- say i called her a whore ;x
[19:11] <Reene> Chad.
[19:11] <Reene> What of him?
[19:11] <Overlord_45> this sentence here is very important
[19:11] <Reene> Not really dating him, right?
[19:11] <Melindhra> i am dating him
[19:12] <Reene> Is that why you had no problem with his dating other women?
[19:12] <Reene> Ahh, yes.
[19:12] <Overlord_45> keep this sentence in mind .[19:11] <Melindhra> and one of them im 100% commited to.
[19:12] <Melindhra> we didnt start "dating" til a few weeks ago, since i spent there all summer
[19:12] <Sin-X> one of them... but the them part implies there are more at the time
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[19:13] <Sin-X> you started "dating" in january, dont give me that bullshit
[19:13] <Sin-X> -|sYcksYn|- now say r we getting any nakey pics or what
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[19:13] <Melindhra> Sin-X: and it was over in March
[19:13] <Melindhra> you know that well enough
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[19:13] <Overlord_45> answer this
[19:13] <Overlord_45> [19:12] <Reene> Is that why you had no problem with his dating other women?
[19:13] <Overlord_45> [19:12] <Reene> Is that why you had no problem with his dating other women?
[19:13] <Overlord_45> [19:12] <Reene> Is that why you had no problem with his dating other women?
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[19:13] <Sin-X> conviently during the month that i was over 100 miles from any computer
[19:14] <Melindhra> i did have a problem with that
[19:14] <Melindhra> which is why it clashed in March
[19:14] <Melindhra> but i also knew why
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[19:14] <Melindhra> and since then we have been talking this true and just spent 7 weeks together, and back together
[19:15] <Overlord_45> wonderful
[19:15] <Overlord_45> so you really really truly this time love him for sure?
[19:15] <Melindhra> absolutely
[19:15] <Overlord_45> wouldn't ever dare consider anybody else ever again?
[19:15] <Melindhra> no, and not with what's going on at all
[19:16] <Overlord_45> .wouldn't, for instance, say things like this? http://img1.uploadimages.net/742424Image28.jpg
[19:16] <Overlord_45> .while you were at his house on his computer?
[19:16] <Melindhra> hehe, nerp, and he read those
[19:17] <Melindhra> and the person in question knows him and i are dating
[19:17] <Reene> And he was absoloutely fine...Sounds like a perfectly healthy relationship.
[19:17] <Overlord_45> nice, he doesn't mind you saying things like that to other guys in front of him
[19:18] <Sin-X> interesting, normally when a guy dosnt care about things like that its because they dont care about the relationship in general...
[19:18] <Overlord_45> alright
[19:18] <Overlord_45> so, he doesn't seem to care that much about little things like that
[19:18] <Sin-X> and when a girl says things like that to someone they arnt dating... well, thats them trying to start another thing on the side... very fickle
[19:18] <Melindhra> if you say so Sin-X
[19:18] <Overlord_45> that's perfectly healthy, i guess
[19:18] <Overlord_45> you know, openly flirting with other guys on your boyfriend's computer at his house with him watching
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[19:18] <Overlord_45> yes, that sounds like it's fine and dandy to me
[19:19] <Melindhra> just ask that person if he knows im dating chad
[19:19] <Reene> It is, Meli, and Sin, Chance, and myself are not the only ones who would think so.
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[19:19] <Sin-X> well, ofcourse he knew you were dating
[19:19] <Sin-X> everyone knows
[19:19] <Melindhra> no
[19:19] <Sin-X> bullshit
[19:19] <Overlord_45> speaking of perfectly healthy
[19:19] <Melindhra> we weren't officially together til recently
[19:19] <Overlord_45> sofie, how many guys did you have sex with before me?
[19:19] <Melindhra> he wasn't sure
[19:20] <Sin-X> officially or not it dosnt matter, because it was still known
[19:20] <Overlord_45> i think i am entitled to know that
[19:20] <Melindhra> 4
[19:20] <Overlord_45> four before me, so i was #5, alright
[19:20] <Sin-X> its like saying my relationship with my gf didnt start till 2 months later because it wasnt "official" even though everyone knows better
[19:21] <Melindhra> yeah there was sth there Sin-X
[19:21] <Overlord_45> oh by the way sofie
[19:21] <Overlord_45> before i bring up my next point
[19:21] <Overlord_45> let me just say, i feel sorry for cythrawll, in a way
[19:22] <Overlord_45> i have one more point left to make, but i think i will hold on that for a moment
[19:23] <Overlord_45> Sin-X, carry on
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[19:24] <Overlord_45> it's too quiiiii-et
[19:24] <Melindhra> where's Sin-X?
[19:24] <idown> he died
[19:24] <idown> it was sad :(
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[19:25] <Overlord_45> well, i suppose there's no use dallying around this point
[19:25] <Sin-X> i went to iron my uniform
[19:26] <Sin-X> some of us have to work tomarrow
[19:26] <Overlord_45> oh, good, he's back
[19:26] <Overlord_45> was hoping i'd get to build a little more suspense up
[19:26] <Sin-X> lol
[19:26] <Sin-X> lets see... where to take it from here...
[19:27] -Sin-X- should ask about the std name?
[19:27] <Overlord_45> tyln has something to say
[19:27] <Tyln> Melindhra, would you say you learned anything from your visit with chance?
[19:28] <Melindhra> Yeah, never get involved with people you don't know enough
[19:28] <Sin-X> but you got involved with primate, and cyth
[19:29] <Melindhra> before i got "involved" with cyth, i got to k now him irl way longer
[19:29] <Reene> "way longer"...
[19:29] <Reene> being how long?
[19:29] <Sin-X> right, so a week? or 2
[19:29] <Cnh-> I'd say talking to Chance over a year should let you know him pretty well
[19:29] <Sin-X> because we all know your time was short with chance before you jumped ship to go to primate
[19:29] <Melindhra> we met 4 times for a pretty long time, out of which this summer (7 weeks) was long
[19:29] <Tyln> group opinion, how soon after Melindhra visited chance did she get "involved" with anyone else?
[19:30] <Sin-X> a day or 2
[19:30] <Overlord_45> fact: she gave primate the impression she wanted a serious relationship while she visited him
[19:30] <Sin-X> she went to go to primates place
[19:30] <Sin-X> primate refused her
[19:30] <Sin-X> and she also denied ever sleeping with chance to him
[19:30] <Melindhra> Overlord_45: no, i liked him, we would meet again, i cancelled
[19:30] <Tyln> chance, when did she visit primate?
[19:30] <Tyln> in relation to your visit
[19:31] <Overlord_45> she met him august 5th 2003
[19:31] <Overlord_45> she left my house august 3rd 2003
[19:31] <Tyln> how would you say you greeted primate Mel?
[19:31] <Sin-X> 2 days... quite short time to go start trying to start another relationship isnt it
[19:31] <Overlord_45> shh sin
[19:31] <Overlord_45> let tyln speak
[19:31] <Melindhra> nothing was said about the liking him til way after that visit tho
[19:31] <Sin-X> k
[19:32] <Melindhra> what you mean Tyln?
[19:32] <Tyln> well... let me start with this, so we can get a clear picture of the situation
[19:32] <Tyln> where did you meet primate?
[19:32] <Melindhra> his house
[19:32] <Tyln> during that visit
[19:32] <Tyln> okay
[19:32] <Tyln> how did you greet him
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[19:33] <Melindhra> just said hello and stood in the kitchen while he was making coffee
[19:33] <Tyln> understand
[19:33] <Tyln> now, you made plans to meet with primate how long before your visit with chance?
[19:34] <Melindhra> actually, it wasn't "planned", i was in town and before i left he said i could give a call
[19:34] <Melindhra> which i did
[19:34] <Melindhra> and i met him the second day i was there
[19:35] <Tyln> and how long did you stay at his place?
[19:35] <Melindhra> i think i was there for about 5 days, during the days
[19:35] <Melindhra> 4 or 5
[19:35] <Melindhra> not sure
[19:35] <Overlord_45> did you only stay at his house?
[19:35] <Sin-X> and how long did you spend with chance?
[19:35] <Melindhra> no, i stayed at a hotel
[19:36] <Overlord_45> and did he stay there with you any time?
[19:36] <Melindhra> was at his place usually after noon
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[19:36] <Melindhra> once, in the other bed
[19:37] <Tyln> that's an interesting situation
[19:37] <Melindhra> the other 4 nights i was in town, i was there alone
[19:37] <Tyln> now Melindhra, before this, you hadn't met with either chance or or primate, is that correct?
[19:37] <Melindhra> correct
[19:38] <Tyln> am i getting the wrong impression that you did stay in a hotel for a few days so you could visit primate?
[19:39] <Sin-X> Tyln, i see the same thing
[19:39] <Melindhra> no there was another reason why i was in town too, but i did meet him 2/3 o fthe days i was there
[19:39] <Tyln> please answer, Mel
[19:39] <Tyln> ah
[19:39] <Tyln> what was that other reason?
[19:40] <Melindhra> 2 friends, brother and sister
[19:41] <Tyln> okay, so given the circumstances, four days after being with chance, you decided to hang out with another man that you didn't know so well, after learning your lesson, and you both preferred this over spending time with anyone else combined, and did not have a problem with it
[19:42] <Melindhra> i knew primate from online for a long time, and it seemed cool to meet him
[19:42] <Sin-X> ofcourse it did, because everyones exactly who they seem to be on the internet
[19:42] <Tyln> yes, but Mel, i believe you are missing a few things
[19:42] <Melindhra> he actually is Sin-X
[19:43] <Sin-X> you only visited for a few days... its simple to put up an act for that long
[19:43] <Sin-X> weeks even would be easy
[19:43] <Overlord_45> i'm reasonably sure i am too, or at least i'm fairly close, but that's beside the point
[19:43] <Melindhra> maybe so, but je was still a cool person
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[19:44] <Sin-X> chance seems cool to me
[19:44] <Tyln> first, you said you learned to not get involved with people that you don't know so well, i'd say chance and primate are fairly similar situations, but according to you you were never dating chance
[19:44] <Overlord_45> never dating, only writing things like that letter of course
[19:44] <Melindhra> liked him for a while, reality showed i didn't as much as i thought
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[19:45] <Reene> "as much as i thought" being an implicit desire to marry him and even have his children.
[19:45] <Melindhra> nah
[19:45] <Reene> What do you mean 'nah'?
[19:45] <Sin-X> professing your love, telling him you want to be with him, and having him break up with his girlfriend at the time... but not dating
[19:45] <Reene> Need chance paste the URL to that snip from the letter?
[19:45] <Melindhra> i never asked him to break up with her
[19:45] <Melindhra> told him to get back with her
[19:46] <Reene> You made it more than clear that it was your desire for him to break up with her to be with you.
[19:46] <Overlord_45> yes
[19:46] <Tyln> second, four days doesn't really give an impression of being upset about anything at all
[19:46] <Overlord_45> you wanted me to leave her for you
[19:46] <Overlord_45> then when i did
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[19:46] <Melindhra> yeah by saying to get back with her, that's probably what i did
[19:46] <Overlord_45> you basically said "you're not ready to date yet, i'm not going to be with you"
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[19:46] <Overlord_45> and i wasn't about to stay alone, i don't do too well like that, especially back then
[19:47] <Melindhra> i know, so ya were with her
[19:47] <Melindhra> which was cool
[19:47] <Melindhra> then she left, or something
[19:47] <Sin-X> if you send people things like that, and expect them not to take it as break up with your girlfriend, then you prove for one, you have no common sense at all, and for two, you know nothing about people
[19:48] <Melindhra> he wasn't dating her
[19:48] <Sin-X> face it, you told him to without saying break up with her
[19:48] <Melindhra> at the time
[19:48] <Reene> ah..So you sent him this letter professing your undying love after he broke up with her for you, and then told him to get back together with her?
[19:49] <Melindhra> umm, she had moved and he had broken up again
[19:49] <Melindhra> and that was his choice
[19:49] <Sin-X> sounds to me like someones a cold hearted lying whore, and its not Reene
[19:49] <Melindhra> sad to hear you say that
[19:49] <Melindhra> of all people
[19:50] <Sin-X> well, its true
[19:50] <Reene> Indeed.
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[19:50] <Reene> There is little else fitting to say about a person that can be so disregarding of other people's feelings.
[19:50] <Sin-X> yeah
[19:50] <Reene> And indeed so deceptive about their own.
[19:51] <Sin-X> and those type of people get no respect in my book as is
[19:51] <Melindhra> if that's the theory, i need to call everyone who broke up with me a bastard too?
[19:51] <Reene> If they did what you did? Sure.
[19:51] <Reene> But you are no better than they are, if that is the case.
[19:52] <Sin-X> its not the fact that you broke up, its how you broke up
[19:52] <Sin-X> when are you going to learn that
[19:52] <Reene> All of us right now...We are people. Chance is a person, you met him, you fucked him, you left him and broke his heart in the process. You don't care though, because it does not affect *you*.
[19:52] <Melindhra> i told him i didn't like him like that, before i did anything with anyone else
[19:53] <Sin-X> but not before you tried
[19:53] <Reene> The reason you date so promiscuously online, the reason you spend so much money seeing these people, is that you need the distance now.
[19:53] <Melindhra> i didn't try
[19:53] <Sin-X> and not before you lied about him
[19:53] <Tyln> before you did anything with anyone else...
[19:53] <Sin-X> you tried with primate, he told us about it
[19:53] <Reene> You can't stand seeing what you do to people.
[19:53] <Sin-X> primate denied you
[19:53] <Tyln> not before you did anything serious with him, before you did anything with anyone else
[19:54] <Melindhra> nothing serieus happened
[19:54] <Melindhra> i would see him again, but didn't
[19:54] <Tyln> and i can be fairly assured that you aren't concerned about anybody else's feelings, as i recall two men who seem a bit in a knot over you
[19:54] <Sin-X> no, you fucked chance, then in a few days tried to fuck primate and was denied, told primate you never did anything with chance, and then came back and told chance you didnt like him
[19:54] <Sin-X> nothing serious
[19:55] <Sin-X> ffs
[19:55] <Tyln> one of which you visited, fucked, decided you didn't like in one visit and the other whom you first visited four days later
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[19:56] <Tyln> i'd say that's fairly damned heartless
[19:56] <Tyln> especially what with learning about "not getting involved" with people you "don't know"
[19:56] <Overlord_45> seemed, not seem
[19:56] <Overlord_45> there's no knot remaining for me, i can assure you
[19:56] <Tyln> even though you "weren't dating him"
[19:56] <Tyln> chance, my apologies
[19:57] <Overlord_45> happens
[19:57] <Overlord_45> you're being quiet melindhra
[19:57] <Melindhra> well, defending myself has no point, you are all forming a nice team
[19:57] <Melindhra> so it really doesn't matter what i say
[19:57] <Reene> actually, I think many of us would like to see what you have to say for yourself.
[19:58] <Tyln> except i don't work as a team
[19:58] <Reene> I admit I find great amusement in your attempts to excuse your behavior.
[19:58] <Overlord_45> hm
[19:58] <Tyln> i have some information, but both you and chance are plenty welcome to share
[19:58] <Overlord_45> so you're pulling the "wow, i'm beat, time to claim they're bandwagoning" card
[19:58] <Reene> We would not be here if we didn't find your behavior reprehensible enough to spend time trying to make you and others understand that
[19:58] <Melindhra> i have said nothing happened with primate and that i did tell chance i didn't like him after my return
[19:58] <Melindhra> no more to say
[19:59] <Reene> Because, optimistically, you might realize what you have done is wrong.
[19:59] <Overlord_45> you did lead me on for a day first, you know
[19:59] <Reene> You might admit it, and you might change and become a better person.
[19:59] <Melindhra> i made a huge mistake
[19:59] <Reene> That would be splendid.
[19:59] <Sin-X> nothing happened because you were... what was that? oh .Denied, rejected, tossed aside, unwated
[19:59] <Tyln> a huge mistake that you don't seem to regret
[19:59] <Overlord_45> yes
[19:59] <Tyln> except in being challenged
[19:59] <Overlord_45> you did make a huge mistake
[19:59] <Melindhra> i do
[19:59] <Sin-X> he said many times it wasnt for a lack of you trying
[19:59] <Overlord_45> a very, very huge mistake
[19:59] <Melindhra> and ive told chance before i regret it
[19:59] <Overlord_45> one that you .still. do not know the full depths of
[20:00] <Overlord_45> remember that conversation we had on thursday?
[20:00] <Sin-X> ofcourse she dosnt chance, she dosnt care for anyone but herself
[20:00] <Melindhra> i do yes
[20:00] <Melindhra> (to chance)
[20:01] <Overlord_45> what was the question i ended it with?
[20:01] <Reene> Why do you think she dates people online Sin?
[20:01] <Reene> It's hard to lie through your teeth to someone when you have to look them in the eye.
[20:01] <Reene> It's hard to break someone's heart if you can see their reaction.
[20:01] <Sin-X> yeah
[20:01] <Sin-X> people are a bit harder to get rid of when your looking them in the eye
[20:01] <Tyln> room for chance, i think
[20:02] <Sin-X> it makes you feal a lil sorry for em
[20:02] <Sin-X> and keeps you from doing it that much longer
[20:02] <Sin-X> but online people arnt real
[20:02] <Overlord_45> excuse me please
[20:02] <Sin-X> were all just personas on irc
[20:02] <Tyln> i'm holding back on my progression, i don't like to think i'm holding back momentarily to let others rable
[20:02] <Melindhra> can you please let one person talk
[20:03] <Overlord_45> Melindhra: what was the question i ended that conversation with?
[20:03] <Melindhra> why i denied it
[20:03] <Overlord_45> no, not that
[20:03] <Overlord_45> the part where i mentioned not being able to date anymore
[20:04] <Melindhra> that was my question
[20:04] <Overlord_45> oh, right. well, that's how it ended, anyway.
[20:04] <Overlord_45> did you think about it any like i asked you to?
[20:04] <Melindhra> i asked why you didn't go look for someone who is right for you
[20:04] <Overlord_45> did you think about why i might have said something like that?
[20:04] <Melindhra> maybe the fear of getting hurt again?
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[20:05] <Overlord_45> very good, that is valid and part of it
[20:05] <Overlord_45> anything else?
[20:05] <Melindhra> not really
[20:06] <Overlord_45> really? that's a shame, i was hoping maybe you'd figure it out
[20:06] <Sin-X> you mean, she still dosnt know?
[20:06] <Sin-X> how is that possible?
[20:06] <Overlord_45> now, see, it all comes back to you having sex with me that week
[20:06] <Overlord_45> Sin-X, this is my moment
[20:07] <Overlord_45> any glimmer yet or should i keep going?
[20:07] <Sin-X> ok
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[20:07] <Melindhra> go on
[20:08] <Overlord_45> we had unprotected sex four times that week, you went down on me once, i went down on you once, and we had unprotected anal sex once that week too
[20:08] <Overlord_45> when you let those things go on, did you have any idea you had an STD?
[20:08] <Melindhra> i know for a fact i don't have one
[20:09] <Overlord_45> ever been tested?
[20:09] <Overlord_45> got some medical records?
[20:09] <Melindhra> yes, we need to get a yearly test at the start of every school year
[20:09] <Reene> Blood test?
[20:09] <Reene> Or a complete pelvic.
[20:09] <Melindhra> last one would have been October 3 last year, next one this October
[20:09] <Melindhra> copplete one
[20:10] <Melindhra> and i had 3 blood tests for a surgery too
[20:10] <Reene> they don't test for STDs for surgery.
[20:10] <Overlord_45> i'm going to privately message you the url to a picture, i want you to publicly explain something on it
[20:10] <Melindhra> no i said BLOOD TEST
[20:10] <Melindhra> full blood test
[20:10] -> -Melindhra- http://www.uploadadultimages.net/images/757874Rubbing1.jpg
[20:10] <Reene> Meli, do you know what blood tests are?
[20:10] <Overlord_45> Reene
[20:10] <Overlord_45> silence for a moment
[20:10] <Overlord_45> examine that picture please
[20:10] <Sin-X> and schools dont test either for std's either :/
[20:10] <Reene> Bloody ignorant woman..
[20:10] <Melindhra> Reene: i was tested for STDS too
[20:11] <Overlord_45> .SILENCE
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[20:11] <Overlord_45> examine that picture and explain to me anything you may find amiss
[20:12] <Overlord_45> see if you can get at the things i'm implying, i can draw circles or something around them if you'd like
[20:12] <Melindhra> still looking for the pic
[20:13] -> -Melindhra- http://www.uploadadultimages.net/images/757874Rubbing1.jpg
[20:13] <Overlord_45> i noticed it to you twice
[20:13] <Melindhra> i know and it downloads to some location i dunno
[20:13] <Melindhra> dcc the pic
[20:14] <Overlord_45> why would a jpeg download to some location?
[20:14] <Melindhra> good question
[20:14] <Overlord_45> open internet explorer, paste the URL in there
[20:14] <Overlord_45> and press enter
[20:14] <Melindhra> ohh
[20:15] <Melindhra> toilet paper?
[20:15] <Overlord_45> no dear
[20:15] <Overlord_45> you're missing a couple
[20:16] <Overlord_45> let me mark what i'm mentioning
[20:16] <Melindhra> i know what ya refer to i think
[20:17] -> -Melindhra- http://img1.uploadimages.net/385155Rubbing1_Marked.jpg
[20:17] <Overlord_45> can't explain all of those off as "toilet paper"
[20:18] <Melindhra> no STDs tho, I was tested, had enough gynaecological examinations and a surgery where they also had to be down there to drain my bladder cuz i couldn't walk to restroom
[20:18] <Melindhra> and if ya need the medical records, i can get them tomorrow
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[20:19] <Reene> I have yearly pelvic exams myself.
[20:19] <Reene> They do not test for STDs unless you specifically request it.
[20:19] <Melindhra> well of course
[20:19] <Reene> And even then.
[20:19] <Melindhra> i just said 3 times i had a specific STD test
[20:19] <Reene> They only usually test for the common ones such as syphillis and gonorrhea.
[20:19] <Overlord_45> should i disprove the evidence i found on myself six months or so after you were here?
[20:19] <Reene> So you got tested for something like the clap, got a negative, and assumed this meant you were clean.
[20:19] <Melindhra> not when you request a full and through examination
[20:20] <Reene> You would be incorrect.
[20:20] <Reene> If you ask for a general STD check, they check for common ones such as herpes, syphillis, gonorrhea, chlymidia(sp) and sometimes HIV.
[20:21] <Melindhra> a THROUGH one
[20:21] <Melindhra> +o
[20:21] <Reene> The wording doesn't matter.
[20:21] <Melindhra> i know what all i was tested on
[20:21] <Melindhra> it's on my records
[20:21] <Reene> If you want them to check for something that is only occuring in 3% of the population of Europe and the US, you have to ask them for that specifically.
[20:21] <Melindhra> and i know for certain, im clean
[20:22] <Overlord_45> my friend steve raises a good point
[20:22] <Melindhra> which i had to do
[20:22] <Reene> Oh? So you are changing what you said then..Hm...What did you ask them to check for praytell.
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[20:22] <Melindhra> cuz i had trouble with an ovary, so before the surgery i HAD to be tested on whatever no matter what
[20:23] <Reene> They do not test for those types of STDs when doing surgery, even on the reproductive organs.
[20:23] <Reene> They will test for things like HIV if you are at risk.
[20:23] <Reene> That is it.
[20:23] <Melindhra> well, you weren't there
[20:23] <cha0sbride> Molluscum contagiosum is viral and most often spread through sexual contact
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[20:23] <Reene> No, but I know what medical professionals tend to do, as I'm attempting to get into the field myself.
[20:23] <cha0sbride> the white bumps are called papules
[20:24] <cha0sbride> the white core is hard
[20:24] <Reene> Yes, and doctors test to be sure you have it by taking a biopsy of one.
[20:24] <cha0sbride> yes
[20:24] <Reene> A tissue sample.
[20:24] <Melindhra> indeed
[20:24] <Reene> They cut one off.
[20:24] <Reene> They didn't do that to you, or you would have mentioned it.
[20:24] <cha0sbride> but they can go away and return
[20:24] <cha0sbride> so if you weren't in an outbreak phase
[20:24] <cha0sbride> they wouldn't test for it
[20:25] <Sin-X> or even know to look for it at all
[20:25] <Sin-X> seeing as its so rare
[20:25] <cha0sbride> they usually go away on their own
[20:25] <cha0sbride> within 3 or 4 years
[20:25] <cha0sbride> sometimes as early as 3-6 months
[20:26] <Overlord_45> i think the evidence i found myself, namely, one prominent white, two smaller but noticeable white, and a whole bunch of flesh colored bumps on myself
[20:26] <Overlord_45> that weren't there before i met her
[20:26] <Overlord_45> i'm tempted to believe those
[20:26] <Melindhra> have you had it checked out?
[20:27] <Overlord_45> i got my driver's license a week and change ago and don't yet possess a vehicle
[20:27] <Melindhra> ah
[20:28] <Melindhra> still im positive of what i said earlier on
[20:29] <Overlord_45> i'm equally positive of what my own goddamn body has to say
[20:29] <Melindhra> then have it checked
[20:30] <Overlord_45> plus, we have a little circumstantial evidence
[20:30] <Overlord_45> you had sex with four people before me
[20:30] <Overlord_45> was it one or two that cheated on you?
[20:31] <Melindhra> that wouldn't be much of an evidence, since i had protected sex with 3 out of the 4
[20:31] <Reene> Why don't you have it checked? You are the one at most risk of transmitting it, after all.
[20:31] <Melindhra> just not steve
[20:31] <Reene> Ah, but see..
[20:31] <Reene> This can be transmitted even when you use a condom.
[20:31] <cha0sbride> if you even touch one of those papules and it's open, you can still transmit it via protected sex
[20:32] <cha0sbride> fingers, mouths, tongues, lips, etc
[20:32] <Melindhra> i shall get out the medical records tomorrow
[20:32] <Reene> You don't understand.
[20:32] <cha0sbride> might as well wipe your ass with them
[20:33] <Reene> They likely did not even test for it.
[20:33] <cha0sbride> they're meaningless
[20:33] <Reene> Even when you ask for "full" testing, they only test for the most common ones.
[20:33] <Overlord_45> when i get my first opportunity
[20:33] <Overlord_45> possibly monday, likely some time this week
[20:34] <Overlord_45> i'll drive down to a clinic and let them check it out
[20:34] <Melindhra> alright
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[20:39] <|sYcksYn|> Melindhra
[20:39] <Melindhra> yes
[20:39] <|sYcksYn|> how long between fucking chance and another guy?
[20:39] <Melindhra> 8 months
[20:39] <|sYcksYn|> and ur the type of girl that doesnt use condoms?
[20:40] <Melindhra> like i said before, i used condoms with 3 out of 4
[20:40] <|sYcksYn|> 3 out of 4 guys?
[20:41] <Melindhra> before him yeah
[20:41] <|sYcksYn|> and how many times did you use a condom while giving head?
[20:41] <|sYcksYn|> ima go ahead and guess.... 0?
[20:41] <Melindhra> actually
[20:41] <Melindhra> no
[20:42] <Melindhra> 2
[20:42] <|sYcksYn|> so 3 out of 4 guys u used a condom with before chance
[20:42] <Melindhra> yes
[20:42] <|sYcksYn|> and how many did u give head to without a condom before chances?
[20:42] <Melindhra> 2
[20:43] <|sYcksYn|> so 3 guys all together had sexual activities with you without using a condom before u had sex with chance; correct?
[20:43] <Melindhra> no 2
[20:43] <|sYcksYn|> okay
[20:43] <|sYcksYn|> so 1 u had sex with; and 1 u blew
[20:44] <Melindhra> yeah and also the one i had sex with
[20:44] <|sYcksYn|> personally i find it hard to believe if youd do something with 3 guys without a condom; that ud actually use a condom while giving head
[20:44] <Melindhra> no 2 guys
[20:44] <Melindhra> 2 guy with, 2 without
[20:44] <|sYcksYn|> yes 2; thats what i meant
[20:44] <|sYcksYn|> how many guys have u had sex with in ur life?
[20:44] <Melindhra> 6
[20:45] <|sYcksYn|> and how old r u?
[20:45] <Melindhra> 24
[20:45] <|sYcksYn|> go chance; anyway
[20:45] <Overlord_45> what?
[20:45] <|sYcksYn|> how long ago was the first time u had sex with chance?
[20:45] <Overlord_45> july 30th 2003
[20:45] <|sYcksYn|> chance how old were you?
[20:45] <Overlord_45> i think
[20:45] <Overlord_45> lemme think
[20:46] <Overlord_45> 31st
[20:46] <Overlord_45> july 31st 2003 for sure
[20:46] <Overlord_45> i was 17
[20:46] <Overlord_45> currently i am 18
[20:46] <|sYcksYn|> im guessing 16 is legal in her country?
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[20:46] <|sYcksYn|> yes;no?
[20:46] <Melindhra> it's 15 now yeah
[20:47] <|sYcksYn|> thats sum sick shit; but anyway
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[20:47] <|sYcksYn|> what are these white dots near ur cunt?
[20:47] <|sYcksYn|> strech pimples?
[20:47] <|sYcksYn|> pimpels w/e
[20:48] <Melindhra> shaving marks
[20:48] <Reene> you don't grow hair in that particular part of your genital.
[20:48] <|sYcksYn|> ...i shave all the time
[20:48] <|sYcksYn|> i shaved my pubes enough times
[20:48] <Reene> and I've never had razor burn that even closely resembles that.
[20:48] <|sYcksYn|> ive never had white dots
[20:48] <Melindhra> well i have
[20:48] <|sYcksYn|> shit i cut myself shaveing a lot
[20:48] <Melindhra> that has to hurt
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[20:49] <|sYcksYn|> what u shaveing with; a rusted blade?
[20:49] <Reene> Even ingrown hairs don't look like that.
[20:49] <|sYcksYn|> never had ingrown hair; but let me say euw
[20:49] <Reene> And the part of her labia the white spots are on are not areas that are capable of growing hair.
[20:49] <Melindhra> no it's a cream actually, and this plastic thing to get the cream off
[20:49] <|sYcksYn|> listen
[20:49] <|sYcksYn|> im 20 years old; ive had my fair share of pussy
[20:49] <|sYcksYn|> ive been down on more girls then bob barker
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[20:49] <Reene> That kind of cream would not cause those kinds of marks.
[20:50] <|sYcksYn|> ive never seen white dots like that on shaved regions
[20:50] <Reene> You would get a chemical burn, not a bunch of little white dots.
[20:50] <|sYcksYn|> Melindhra
[20:50] <Melindhra> i know what ive been told
[20:50] <|sYcksYn|> why dont u go take a picture of these now cleared marks as shaveing cuts dont last very long
[20:51] <|sYcksYn|> and do us all a favor and blank out ur privates
[20:51] <Overlord_45> cha0sbride mentioned that outbreaks of what her and i believe those bumps to be
[20:51] <Overlord_45> can go away in as little as three months
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[20:51] <Overlord_45> so that wouldn't necessarily prove anything
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[20:52] <|sYcksYn|> well; they also reoccur too
[20:52] <|sYcksYn|> so lets see if theres more now
[20:52] <Sin-X> but they need a weakened immune system to reoccur
[20:52] <Reene> frankly I'm surprised she was able to position a camera so well and take such a clear picture like that
[20:52] <Reene> in the first place
[20:52] <|sYcksYn|> itll be taken as sircumstantial evidince in any case
[20:52] <|sYcksYn|> -s+c
[20:52] <Reene> indeed
[20:52] <Sin-X> Reene, with enough practice anyone could probally do that
[20:52] <Reene> enoughy circumstancial evidence is damning though
[20:53] <|sYcksYn|> Reene : u havent seen girls gone wild ;]
[20:53] <Reene> Yeah, practice, shit. I couldn't pull poses like that off, and I've mooned my share of cameras.
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[20:54] <|sYcksYn|> well
[20:54] <Reene> the fact remains that there is picture evidence of a clear symptom of an STD taken shortly before her visit with chance...and now chance has had an outbreak.
[20:54] <|sYcksYn|> okay; lets skip that
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[20:54] <Reene> chance has had sex with no one else.
[20:54] <Reene> her excuses are pitiful and easily refuted.
[20:54] <|sYcksYn|> im sure after 5+ guys uve had sex with more after chance too ;x
[20:55] <Overlord_45> she had four before me, me, one after me
[20:55] <|sYcksYn|> from what u know at least
[20:55] <|sYcksYn|> then again if i was a female slut i wouldnt go around fueling the fire with it
[20:55] <|sYcksYn|> see im a guy slut; so ill tell u everyone a fuck and send pictures of it too
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[20:55] <Cnh-> hay she shut up :[
[20:56] <Sin-X> thats not the first time
[20:56] <Melindhra> indeed
[20:56] <Melindhra> and im off too
[20:56] <|sYcksYn|> Melindhra what country u live in?
[20:56] <Overlord_45> hm
[20:56] <Melindhra> belgium
[20:56] <|sYcksYn|> oh nm; BE
[20:56] <|sYcksYn|> hell
[20:56] <Overlord_45> clammed up there at the end
[20:56] * Overlord_45 shrugs
[20:57] <Melindhra> niters
[20:57] <|sYcksYn|> so like uhh... i wouldnt go as far to say u have an STD; till chance said he got sum shit now too
[20:57] <Reene> Heh.
[20:57] <Reene> I'll wait for that doctor contact information then.
[20:57] <Melindhra> well i don't have one, so it's all good
[20:57] <|sYcksYn|> chance did u see shit on her when u went down on her?
[20:58] <Reene> I can ask them if it's standard practice to test for things like molloscum.
[20:58] <|sYcksYn|> its not exactly something u would miss is it?
[20:58] <Melindhra> yeah Reene i'll deliver all the proof needed
[20:58] <Overlord_45> well
[20:58] <Overlord_45> the last time you went down on someone
[20:58] <Reene> It might be, in poor light.
[20:58] <Overlord_45> did you give the area a thorough examination?
[20:58] <Overlord_45> i didn't
[20:58] <Reene> okay meli. Good to know.
[20:58] <|sYcksYn|> i sure remember what most my ex's pussys looked like
[20:58] <Reene> I'll wait for those medical records too.
[20:59] <Melindhra> ok cool
[20:59] <Reene> After all, a specific test for molloscum is bound to show up.
[20:59] <|sYcksYn|> well
[20:59] <Reene> Because that's an expensive, invasive procedure.
[20:59] <|sYcksYn|> id say 1. chance u need to take an std test obviously as u know
[20:59] <|sYcksYn|> and deffinitly see a doctor about that shit
[20:59] <Overlord_45> of course
[20:59] <Overlord_45> like i said, as soon as i have an opportunity
[20:59] * Melindhra is off, nite
[21:00] <|sYcksYn|> its quite possible it could be an infection from sticking ur dick in her ass; its not exactly the idel area to eat off of
[21:00] <Reene> nah
[21:00] <|sYcksYn|> Melindhra do the world a favor and demand wrapping on anything put in u
[21:00] <cha0sbride> e coli and molloscum are two different things
[21:00] <|sYcksYn|> we dont need any more little hoes running around
[21:00] <Overlord_45> don't make me tell you graphic stories about my first girlfriend and how we often passed the time
[21:00] <Reene> bacteria found in the area of the anus do not manifest themselves in that way.
[21:01] <|sYcksYn|> i dunno my friend fucked sum dude in the ass and he got bumps all over his dick too lol
[21:01] <Reene> Might have been warts.
[21:01] <Reene> They grow in the anus sometimes, can't even see them.
[21:02] <|sYcksYn|> speaking of anus; i have to take a huge shit soon
[21:02] <|sYcksYn|> i guess this session is done for today?
[21:02] <Reene> well, we can't exactly continue without the star of the show/
[21:03] <Reene> now can we?
[21:03] <|sYcksYn|> dude
[21:03] <|sYcksYn|> theres like 4 helicopters over my house
[21:04] * |sYcksYn| listens real carefully for footsteps outside to see if he needs to delete his e drive *
[21:04] *** RealmMaster (realmx@lcirc-C3381C23.daforest.org) Quit (Quit: leaving.)
[21:04] <Reene> OMG RIAA
[21:04] *** Melindhra (~Darkfrien@lcirc-B9B15C45.kabel.telenet.be) Quit (Quit: out.)
[21:04] *** Overlord_45 sets mode: -m
[21:05] <|sYcksYn|> i guess without the target of this spanish inquisition we are left with no choice but to...
[21:05] <|sYcksYn|> PLAY STARCRAFT! <3
[21:05] * Reene wishes.
[21:05] <JediLukeS9> are logs getting posted?
[21:05] <|sYcksYn|> Reene u got SC?
[21:05] <JediLukeS9> cause im missing 5min from when i got booted by internet
[21:05] <Reene> nope.
[21:05] <Reene> I want it.
[21:06] <|sYcksYn|> download it
[21:06] <|sYcksYn|> or u a dial whore?
[21:06] <Reene> hey now :|
[21:06] <Reene> 21.6kbps.
[21:06] <Overlord_45> after you get cable she'll be the last dialup i know
[21:06] <|sYcksYn|> aka dial up
[21:06] <|sYcksYn|> u said ur no looker
[21:06] <Reene> Yep
[21:07] <|sYcksYn|> i demand proof
[21:07] <Reene> ask chance, he's seen proof
[21:07] <|sYcksYn|> Overlord_45 is she ugly?
[21:07] <Reene> hey, i said i wasn't a looker, i never said ugly.
[21:07] <Overlord_45> she isn't ugly
[21:07] <cha0sbride> hahaha
[21:07] <Reene> i'm just very plain.
[21:07] <ladybird> well that was interesting
[21:07] <Sin-X> im missing the begining of the logs
[21:07] <|sYcksYn|> oh... yea... thats what i meant..
[21:07] <Overlord_45> who needs a full log?
[21:07] <|sYcksYn|> so...
[21:07] <Sin-X> if i can get that, then ill put the logs on the net
[21:07] <Overlord_45> okay, Sin-X
[21:07] <|sYcksYn|> send me a pic
[21:07] <Sin-X> me
[21:07] <cha0sbride> not ugly on the outside
[21:07] <ladybird> i need full
[21:07] <MmBe3r> me
[21:07] <Sin-X> ill host it after that
[21:07] <ladybird> I didnt join till you told sin to join
[21:07] <|sYcksYn|> Reene : a pic please? ;x
[21:07] <JediLukeS9> i just need the time i got dc'ed
[21:07] <matttheguy> lawl
[21:08] <matttheguy> ::DD
[21:08] <Sin-X> so everyone can get the full off luniticfringe
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